I’ve compared AMD’s last 4 generations of 8 core Ryzen 7 cpus to figure out if it’s time to upgrade or if you can conserve some money with an older version. All four of these Ryzen 7 cpus are 8 core 16 string chips, and also the more recent the CPU, the greater clock speeds they can reach. The newer ones typically have extra cache, however something one-of-a-kind with the 7700X is it moves to the newer DDR5 memory for the very first time in AMD’s background. Ryzen 7000 chips additionally have integrated graphics now, something the older components did not have. At the time of introducing in September 2022, AMD plans to sell the 7700X for $400 USD. Today on Newegg you can get the 5700X for $245, the 3700X for $181, and the 2700X for $169. Nice! These will certainly transform in time, so check current prices with the web links below the video clip. With the high price on the 7700X, it begs the concern, is AMD’s 7700X worth paying much more for compared to their older as well as less costly 8 core CPUs? To learn, this is the system I have actually made use of to contrast all 4 processors.
I have actually checked with MSI’s Core Liquid S360 AIO and also Noctua NT-H2 thermal paste so we can rather compare thermals, but the motherboard and RAM have been altered for the 7700X, as this makes
use of the brand-new AM5 outlet and calls for DDR5 memory. Alright allow’s obtain directly into the application, thermals as well as power draw tests, as these will certainly be rather intriguing. After that we’ll evaluate out 11 games at 2 various resolutions. Allow’s start with Cinebench R23, as it’s an easy way to obtain a basic concept of where single and multi threaded performance are at. I’ve got the earliest 2700X down all-time low of the chart, increasing to the newer CPUs with the 7700X at the top, as well as that brand-new Zen 4 based 7700X is providing us the largest increase to performance that we’ve seen in lots of generations. Contrasted to the 5700X, which came out previously this year, the more recent 7700X is scoring 31% greater in single core and 45% greater in multi core while having the exact same core as well as string count, remarkable things. We can see why the boost is so large when taking a look at the clock rates being gotten to throughout this test. Prior to the 7700X, Ryzen chips would certainly run all 8 cores around 4GHz, now Zen 4 is wrecking beyond the 5GHz barrier in a sustained manner. Again, excellent things, at the very least until we take a closer look under the hood. The 7700X is utilizing even more power
than any other processor in order to get to these clock speeds. Yeah it’s racking up 45% greater compared to the 5700X simply below it in Cinebench multi core performance, yet it’s also making use of 66% even more power to achieve this. Seems like AMD could have taken a web page out of Intel’s book. The 7700X ends up comparable to the 3700X from an effectiveness perspective, while the 5700X was one of the most efficient, at the very least in this specific test with no power limits. We can obviously use Eco mode on the 7700X to limit it to use much less power, but we’re evaluating at default below as I figured the majority of people acquiring these CPUs will do the exact same. Offered we can see power draw improving over time with AM4, I question if future AM5 CPUs will minimize power, or if AMD will certainly proceed pumping even more juice in to show larger gains. Even more power usually equals even more heat, and the 7700X was reaching TJMax at 95 levels Celsius in this test, despite having my big 360 all-in-one fluid cooler. Now AMD keeps in mind that with the new AM5 outlet as well as greater TDP, 95 levels Celsius is anticipated when under hefty multicore load, which this is intended and also deliberately. They take place to keep in mind that TJMax is the maximum safe operating temperature level, not the outright max. The processor is created to run at 95 degrees Celsius similar to this
24/7 without threat of damages or wear and tear. So generally AMD don’t think about 95 degrees Celsius to be as well hot, and also Zen 4 will deliberately run at this temperature as long as it can in order to eject as much performance as feasible. Directly, I do not really see this as excessive of a concern but I’m made use of to testing laptops which constantly perform at 95 levels anyhow. It seems like you might need a great colder in order to get the most from the 7700X. Alright right before we get involved in the games, let’s take a look at the rest of the application tests. Blender or food processor was examined with the Open Information standard, and also I have actually consisted of all three different workloads that it evaluates. The 7700X had a huge 83% lead over the older 2700X in the Class examination, a 53% lead over the 3700X, and still a 48% lead over the 5700X, as the differences in between the 3700X as well as 5700X weren’t actually that large here, and also this is something we’ll see even more of as we go. The V-Ray benchmark is an additional heavy multi-threaded rendering work, and also the 7700X had several of its largest gains below too, scoring 47% more than the 5700X, 66% ahead of the 3700X prior to it, and also 84% in advance of the 2700X prior to that. The Corona benchmark also makes use of the cpu to render out a scene, yet lower times are much better in this one as we’re looking at exactly how long the task took instead of a
score, and also this workload had among the tiniest distinctions out of all applications tested. Linux bit collection was examined in Linux with Ubuntu 22.04, whereas the rest of the tests were all made with Windows 11. This is another instance where the 3700X and also 5700X weren’t too various, which I believe is due to them having the very same amount of cache, as that’s something that is understood to impact collection efficiency. Anyhow the 7700X was 32% faster than the 5700X. LLVM compilation is the only various other examination I’ve carried out in Linux, as well as once more the 5700X and also 3700X were much the very same below. The 3700X was actually 10 seconds quicker which didn’t truly make good sense to me, yet I checked the outcome as well as got the same. The 7700X had a comparable lead compared to the 5700X here too at around 31% faster, though it’s 50% faster compared to the 2700X, virtually finishing the examination in half the moment. Handbrake was utilized to convert my 4K 60FPS review video clip of the Legion 7i pc gaming laptop to 1080p h.265. Reduced times are better here, as well as once more the void between the 3700X and also 5700X is much smaller sized compared to the others. The 7700X was 28% faster than the 5700X and also 43% faster than the 2700X. Adobe Best was examined with the Puget Systems benchmark tool, and this examinations video clip editing tasks like exporting, playback and also even more. Once more only small distinctions between the 3700X and also 5700X with the 7700X having a bigger lead. Do not neglect the 7700X includes incorporated graphics for the first time currently, so this might partially be liable for several of
the performance uplift here, as Best can utilize integrated graphics. DaVinci Resolve is an additional video clip editing and enhancing program, though the performance void isn’t as large below with the 7700X racking up 21% far better than the 5700X, one of the smallest differences out of all applications evaluated. CPUs most definitely influence efficiency, yet from my own screening including more GPU power usually enhances this score more. Adobe Photoshop does better with more solitary threaded efficiency, and as we saw in Cinebench earlier, the 7700X absolutely has some good gains there. It’s scoring 34% in advance of the 5700X, however 82% ahead of the older 2700X. Currently for some office tasks like Microsoft Excel, Word, PowerPoint and Outlook. The 7700X was ahead in all workloads, so I think consider updating if you’re doing significant office business. 7-Zip was used to examine compression and also decompression. Ryzen typically does a lot much better compared to Intel in these examinations, as well as I really can’t wait to compare Ryzen 7000 against Intel’s 13th gen soon as soon as those are offered. Make certain you’re subscribed for those contrasts! Anyway the 7700X was 32% faster than the 5700X in compression and also 25% in decompression. Compression is almost two times as fast on the 7700X when compared to the 2700X however, the largest gain out of any workload tested. Geekbench examines a lot of various work, a few of
which gain from AVX512 instructions, which is something that the 7700X has equipment support for and also describes the above ordinary gains. Typically out of all applications tested, the brand-new 7700X is around 72% faster when compared to the older 2700X, though as we can see there are significant distinctions in between the numerous applications. For example 7-Zip compression was almost two times as quick on the 7700X, compilation was around 50% faster. If we instead compare the 7700X versus the 3700X, after that we’re checking out a 48% enhancement with the more recent 7700X in these specific application tests. There’s a 32% enhancement when contrasted versus the 5700X, which only introduced previously this year, so these are quite wonderful enhancements contrasted to such a brand-new item that’s just a generation old. Alright now allow’s enter some games! I have actually compared all four cpus in 11 various games at both 1080p and also 1440p resolutions. Let’s start with Wonder’s Spider-Man Remastered. I’ve got the 1080p outcomes below and the 1440p outcomes above, and also once more like previously, with the older CPUs down the bottom relocating up to the more recent ones above. This game really did not have that much of a performance distinction in between 1080p as well as 1440p resolutions. At 1080p the 7700X is primarily getting to twice the ordinary framework price contrasted to the 2700X, awesome things. We’re considering a 56% lead with the 7700X when compared against the 3700X, and after that a 31% greater average FPS compared to the more recent 5700X. Microsoft Flight Simulator was checked in the
Sydney landing challenge, as well as there weren’t actually any noteworthy differences in between 1080p and also 1440p in this video game either. The gains aren’t fairly as huge with the 7700X this time, which was around 15% faster compared to the 5700X at 1080p, though we’re taking a look at a larger 78% lead when compared versus the older 2700X. The 2700X is absolutely still playable at close to 60 FPS high setups, but yeah the 7700X has the ability to obtain us over 100 FPS, and like they constantly say, much more frameworks, more better. Warhammer 3 was examined with the game’s benchmark tool, as well as this time there’s a lot less of a distinction at the greater 1440p resolution. The CPU selection hardly matters at all here, indicating we’re starting to end up being GPU bottlenecked by the RTX 3090 Ti. The good news is 40 collection is just around the edge, get subscribed for my forthcoming contrasts with it! The gaps are a bit larger at 1080p, however we’re checking out a below par outcome when compared with the various other 10 video games examined. Halo Infinite has some larger spaces at 1440p, though the differences between the 5700X as well as 7700X at 1440p were simply an 8% lead with the 7700X, very little of a difference, though there’s a much bigger 59% boost with the 7700X when
contrasted with the 2700X. The gaps are larger at 1080p, as we’re normally less GPU bound at lower resolutions. The 7700X was 88% ahead of the 2700X right here, 57% ahead of the 3700X, and 32% ahead of the 5700X. Things start looking a little weird in Call of Task Warzone. At 1080p we’re seeing essentially the same ordinary FPS on the 3700X, 5700X and also 7700X, though the dips in efficiency as revealed by the 1% lows were notably greater with the more recent 7700X, so a little smoother experience. The 5700X appears to be in advance at 1440p, though it’s only by a few frameworks. I put the 5700X back in after evaluating all 4 CPUs to check this however got the very same outcomes, so not exactly sure what the deal is, gave a 3-5 FPS difference isn’t one any individual’s actually going to discover when playing, so I would certainly state we’re seeing a margin of mistake distinction below. Mentioning strange outcomes, something comparable was seen in Pinnacle Legends, and also of course I have actually got the framework cap removed. The 5700X was technically ahead once again at 1080p, while the 3700X was generally tied with the 7700X at 1440p in regards to typical FPS. The 2700X isn’t also far behind right here either, so generally at max setups it does not really appear to matter also much which CPU you’re going with. I considered testing with lower setup degrees to stay clear of a GPU bottleneck, but there had not been much choice as the video game still caps FPS to 300 also if you transform off the reduced cap. Fortnite didn’t have any type of such problems, though
I was able to check with medium settings below as it’s not restricted to 300 FPS like Peak. The 7700X was simply 14% ahead of the 5700X at the lower 1080p resolution, while the 1% lows were primarily the very same. The 7700X was 63% faster than the older 3700X, as well as then a monstrous 104% faster contrasted to the 2700X, suggesting the 7700X is a lot more than increasing its framework rate. While we’re on the topic of eSports games, CS: GO was additionally seeing huge boosts with more recent processors. The 7700X was reaching a 136% greater ordinary structure rate compared to the 2700X right here, so yes if you’re playing games competitively that rely upon CPU power like these, an upgrade can be well worth it. If you have actually got a 2700X, updating to the 5700X and obtaining a 93% gain would certainly be a much simpler as well as less costly solution taking into consideration all you ‘d have to do is a drop-in replacement of the CPU. Cyberpunk 2077 was one more where we began seeing GPU restrictions at 1440p, a minimum of with the high setting pre-programmed. The 3700X, 5700X and also 7700X were all reaching essentially the same standard frame price, though the 1% lows with the 3700X were reduced, and also the 2700X was just like 10 FPS behind. There’s a little bit even more of a distinction at the reduced 1080p resolution where we’re even more CPU bound. The 2700X was still able to get us 100 FPS when combined with the 3090 Ti, yet the 7700X was 48% faster – which is in fact a second-rate distinction out of the 11 titles that I have actually evaluated. I have actually evaluated The Riftbreaker making use of the CPU criteria alternative, and also the 7700X had fairly a lead here. The gap between the 2700X and
also 3700X had not been that large fairly, with the 3700X simply 16% faster at 1080p. The 5700X was 30% faster than the 3700X just listed below it, while the 7700X was 36% in advance of the 5700X.
Like a variety of other CPU hefty video games checked, there’s no significant distinction whether or not we’re running at 1080p or 1440p. Last video game before we enter the fun comparison graphs. Watch Pets Myriad was tested with the video game’s standard, and also usually, this game was right in line with the total 11 video game average. Typically over all 11 video games evaluated, at 1080p the brand-new 7700X was executing 72% better than the older 2700X. As we can see below, the differences really rely on the specific video game. CS: GO on top for instance is 135% quicker with the 7700X, while Pinnacle Legends down the bottom was just 4% much faster on the 7700X. If we step up to the higher 1440p resolution after that the 7700X is rather 58% faster contrasted to the 2700X. A lot of video games shed some performance at higher resolutions as there’s just more pixels to make, however although this is typically more GPU bound, we’re still seeing some huge gains with the 7700X, however at the exact same time, various other video games
only saw little gains. If we instead compare the 3700X with the 7700X, the 7700X was 43% faster typically in our 11 games examined at 1080p. Telephone Call of Duty Warzone and Apex Legends had basically no differences, at the very least with all setups maxed out, maybe that would certainly have been different at lower setups. Once more at 1440p, like we also saw when contrasting the 2700X as well as 7700X, a few of the video games have basically no adjustment. If you’re everything about playing Cyberpunk at 1440p high settings as an example, then there’s no genuine factor in a CPU upgrade from the 3700X. The 7700X was just 16% faster contrasted to the 5700X at 1080p. I indicate the 5700X did just come out previously this year, and while some video games had decent renovations, the 11 video game standard isn’t that outstanding, a minimum of when contrasted to some of the huge efficiency gains that we saw earlier beyond pc gaming. Once more there’s less of a distinction at the greater 1440p resolution, with the 7700X doing 12% faster contrasted to the 5700X typically in the same 11 games. Below’s what we’re looking at when we take the average frame rates from all 11 games examined to try and identify some total patterns. After seeing that the 1440p data isn’t all that a lot reduced than 1080p, I kind of regret not evaluating 4K. In spite of the 7700X using the ideal raw gaming performance, it’s not the very best value alternative due to its
greater cost. AMD are releasing it for $400 USD, so it’s mosting likely to be difficult for it to contend versus the 5700X when you can select that up for $150 less, and also this is only considering CPU expenses, not motherboards or DDR5 memory. The prices I’ve got for the older CPUs are the cheapest at Newegg when I’m making this video in late September, yet once again make use of the links below the video to check existing costs. The 3700X is practically the most effective in terms of dollar per multi core performance in a work like Cinebench too, as it’s simply less than half the cost of the 7700X. The 7700X is naturally racking up 57% higher in the Cinebench multicore examination, yet you have actually got to pay greater than two times the total up to get that additional performance. As well as allow’s not neglect, if you do have a 2700X you can do a drop-in replacement to either the 3700X or 5700X without changing hardware. Actually you can go right as much as the 16 core 5950X. Honestly, based upon this, if you currently have an AM4 system, upgrading to the 5700X gives you a lot of of the gains for means much less of the price. Not just is the 5700X CPU alone greater than $150 less expensive, however the 7700X would suggest you’ve also
reached pay out for a new motherboard and DDR5 memory. To be fair, the prices of DDR5 memory have actually come down a little bit considering that in 2015. It’s not fairly as much of a rip-off as it was before. Plus if you were updating to AM5, you could constantly sell your old stuff to get several of the price back. Now although the 3700X is the most effective worth in both video gaming and also productivity, there’s no refuting that the 7700X supplies some nice efficiency improvements. Eventually it comes down to whether or not you desire to invest the additional money for the efficiency renovations that I have actually displayed in this video clip. I’ve likewise done this exact same comparison however with the Ryzen 9 3950X, 5950X and also 7950X 16 core processors, so come and also take a look at that contrast over below following! The final thought is really a bit various to this … Currently AMD is by no indicates the only CPU maker around, Intel’s 13th gen processors will certainly be right here really quickly, so make certain you’re subscribed for my approaching contrasts with those.